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		<title>By: Janet Barclay</title>
		<link>http://organizedassistant.com/2009/07/03/how-much-should-i-charge-for-organizing-services/comment-page-1/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Janet Barclay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 16:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim, I would be delighted, of course, and I&#039;m glad this article will be useful to you in your work with other businesses.

Your &quot;P.S.&quot; was very helpful to me today, as I&#039;m currently putting together new packages and struggling with these very same issues!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim, I would be delighted, of course, and I&#8217;m glad this article will be useful to you in your work with other businesses.</p>
<p>Your &#8220;P.S.&#8221; was very helpful to me today, as I&#8217;m currently putting together new packages and struggling with these very same issues!<br />
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		<title>By: Jim Love</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Love</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet, excellent article.  I&#039;ll be sharing this with others if that&#039;s okay with you.  Of course - linked to this page.  This is one of the number one questions I get - &quot;how much should I charge&quot;.

P.S. Based on this type of content, you probably are worth twice what you charge :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet, excellent article.  I&#8217;ll be sharing this with others if that&#8217;s okay with you.  Of course &#8211; linked to this page.  This is one of the number one questions I get &#8211; &#8220;how much should I charge&#8221;.</p>
<p>P.S. Based on this type of content, you probably are worth twice what you charge <img src='http://organizedassistant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Janet Barclay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Barclay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liz, that&#039;s another good point - when something comes naturally to you, it takes a while to realize that it&#039;s not that easy for everyone. And to ask someone to pay you for doing what you love to do feels pretty weird at first!
.-= Janet Barclay&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://organizing-business.com/2009/07/03/how-much-should-i-charge-for-organizing-services/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Much Should I Charge for Organizing Services?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liz, that&#8217;s another good point &#8211; when something comes naturally to you, it takes a while to realize that it&#8217;s not that easy for everyone. And to ask someone to pay you for doing what you love to do feels pretty weird at first!<br />
<span class="cluv"> Janet Barclay&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://organizing-business.com/2009/07/03/how-much-should-i-charge-for-organizing-services/" rel="nofollow">How Much Should I Charge for Organizing Services?</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://organizedassistant.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Liz Jenkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liz Jenkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 23:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Janet &amp; Julie - great post &amp; comments!
I love the point made about being frugal - I know I am - so I made the same mistake when I started.  I never want to pay anyone for something I could do myself (just cleaned my own tire rims today!) but there are so many people who will - and want to!  It took me a while to realize that the skills I have are valuable to others - because they don&#039;t have it.
I had to figure out that even though I&#039;m competent at many things - I did hire out for things that I just couldn&#039;t do - so why wouldn&#039;t other people.  I mean, how many people got into organizing as a profession because they realized - WHOA - people will PAY me for something I love to do - and do really well?!? Who knew?  It comes so naturally to us that we figure everyone could do it.  But no, they can&#039;t.  Hence, the PO career!
.-= Liz Jenkins&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/afreshspace/~3/PqZ8sjUuMH0/whats-important-to-you-is-what-you.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What&#039;s important to YOU is what you should do . . .&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Janet &amp; Julie &#8211; great post &amp; comments!<br />
I love the point made about being frugal &#8211; I know I am &#8211; so I made the same mistake when I started.  I never want to pay anyone for something I could do myself (just cleaned my own tire rims today!) but there are so many people who will &#8211; and want to!  It took me a while to realize that the skills I have are valuable to others &#8211; because they don&#8217;t have it.<br />
I had to figure out that even though I&#8217;m competent at many things &#8211; I did hire out for things that I just couldn&#8217;t do &#8211; so why wouldn&#8217;t other people.  I mean, how many people got into organizing as a profession because they realized &#8211; WHOA &#8211; people will PAY me for something I love to do &#8211; and do really well?!? Who knew?  It comes so naturally to us that we figure everyone could do it.  But no, they can&#8217;t.  Hence, the PO career!<br />
<span class="cluv"> Liz Jenkins&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/afreshspace/~3/PqZ8sjUuMH0/whats-important-to-you-is-what-you.html" rel="nofollow">What&#8217;s important to YOU is what you should do . . .</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://organizedassistant.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Janet Barclay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Barclay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 19:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You got that right, Julie! I was on one organizing job where we found a misplaced check that was large enough to cover the fees for two organizers for the day, the supplies we&#039;d picked up on his behalf, and then some!
.-= Janet Barclay&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://organizing-business.com/2009/07/03/how-much-should-i-charge-for-organizing-services/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Much Should I Charge for Organizing Services?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You got that right, Julie! I was on one organizing job where we found a misplaced check that was large enough to cover the fees for two organizers for the day, the supplies we&#8217;d picked up on his behalf, and then some!<br />
<span class="cluv"> Janet Barclay&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://organizing-business.com/2009/07/03/how-much-should-i-charge-for-organizing-services/" rel="nofollow">How Much Should I Charge for Organizing Services?</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://organizedassistant.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Julie Bestry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Bestry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, to be clear, a significant portion of our prospective clients are not only spending money on duplicate items due to their disorganization, but they&#039;re losing out on financial opportunities (tax deductions, rebates, etc.) because they can&#039;t find the documentary proof they need, and are paying too many fees/fines because they have neither the systems nor the awareness of how to avoid these fines.  Even at multiples of our initially-designed rates, we&#039;re still saving our clients enormous amounts in the short and long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, to be clear, a significant portion of our prospective clients are not only spending money on duplicate items due to their disorganization, but they&#8217;re losing out on financial opportunities (tax deductions, rebates, etc.) because they can&#8217;t find the documentary proof they need, and are paying too many fees/fines because they have neither the systems nor the awareness of how to avoid these fines.  Even at multiples of our initially-designed rates, we&#8217;re still saving our clients enormous amounts in the short and long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Janet Barclay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janet Barclay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:36:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Julie, thanks so much for sharing your two cents worth - or should that be ten dollars? :)

I&#039;ve also heard &quot;charge twice what you think you should&quot; and had trouble with that concept, since I too am on the thrifty side.

Although there are lots of people who are cautious with money, they are probably not necessarily the type of clients you want. Much better to attract those who value your service and have the willingness and the funds to pay what it&#039;s worth.
.-= Janet Barclay&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://organizing-business.com/2009/07/03/how-much-should-i-charge-for-organizing-services/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Much Should I Charge for Organizing Services?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie, thanks so much for sharing your two cents worth &#8211; or should that be ten dollars? <img src='http://organizedassistant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also heard &#8220;charge twice what you think you should&#8221; and had trouble with that concept, since I too am on the thrifty side.</p>
<p>Although there are lots of people who are cautious with money, they are probably not necessarily the type of clients you want. Much better to attract those who value your service and have the willingness and the funds to pay what it&#8217;s worth.<br />
<span class="cluv"> Janet Barclay&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://organizing-business.com/2009/07/03/how-much-should-i-charge-for-organizing-services/" rel="nofollow">How Much Should I Charge for Organizing Services?</a> <span class="heart_tip_box"><img class="heart_tip" alt="My ComLuv Profile" border="0" width="16" height="14" src="http://organizedassistant.com/wp-content/plugins/commentluv/images/littleheart.gif"/></span></span></p>
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		<title>By: Julie Bestry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Bestry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 15:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All excellent points, Janet.  There&#039;s another reason professional organizers may price themselves too low.  The best advice I heard over and over when I started as a professional organizer was that whatever I was thinking of charging, I should double it!  I scoffed.  Repeatedly.

When I escaped from the corporate world and started my business (I can&#039;t believe it was 8 years ago!), I made only one tactical mistake.  I set my rates based on what *I* would have been willing to pay someone to do a comparable service.  I didn&#039;t take into account that I&#039;m...well...cheap. Frugal.  Parsimonious.

Whatever you want to call it, I was unintentionally undervaluing my service by charging too little, not because I didn&#039;t think the service had value, but because I didn&#039;t appreciate that people might think too low a cost implied a lower value.  Professional organizers tend to be do-it-yourselfers and problem-solvers in their own right, so it&#039;s hard to conceive of how much such an important and life-affirming services as ours should cost, especially when it comes so easily to us!

Since I can&#039;t fathom buying a anything but the cheapest mode of safe transportation, for example, the idea of buying a $20K+ car (let alone a $40K+ car!) was foreign.  I couldn&#039;t conceive of people spending $4000 on a desk--when I casually suggested to a client she&#039;d be better off with a desk that had at least two file drawers, I was thinking Target&#039;s dorm desks, not an antique shop&#039;s hand-carved masterpiece.

This not to say that everyone is buying Jimmy Choo and Christian Louboutin shoes, though I&#039;m shocked that anyone does.  My point is that people spend what they think a product or service is worth TO THEM, and if it&#039;s priced too low, based on their expectations, they assume the value is too low and search elsewhere.

The points you mention fit in with this, especially with the going rate, not only of other professional organizers in the area, but other service professionals.  It&#039;s important that the rate we charge is commensurate with the value of the service we provide--we are not merely moving tangible items around a room, but (as NAPO says) transferring skills and changing the relationship people have with their tangible items, their tasks and their thoughts.

To do this, we have to recognize that our skills and abilities do not come easily to our clients--that&#039;s why they need us in the first place, and why they are actually better at evaluating our value than we might be, ourselves (especially in the beginning).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All excellent points, Janet.  There&#8217;s another reason professional organizers may price themselves too low.  The best advice I heard over and over when I started as a professional organizer was that whatever I was thinking of charging, I should double it!  I scoffed.  Repeatedly.</p>
<p>When I escaped from the corporate world and started my business (I can&#8217;t believe it was 8 years ago!), I made only one tactical mistake.  I set my rates based on what *I* would have been willing to pay someone to do a comparable service.  I didn&#8217;t take into account that I&#8217;m&#8230;well&#8230;cheap. Frugal.  Parsimonious.</p>
<p>Whatever you want to call it, I was unintentionally undervaluing my service by charging too little, not because I didn&#8217;t think the service had value, but because I didn&#8217;t appreciate that people might think too low a cost implied a lower value.  Professional organizers tend to be do-it-yourselfers and problem-solvers in their own right, so it&#8217;s hard to conceive of how much such an important and life-affirming services as ours should cost, especially when it comes so easily to us!</p>
<p>Since I can&#8217;t fathom buying a anything but the cheapest mode of safe transportation, for example, the idea of buying a $20K+ car (let alone a $40K+ car!) was foreign.  I couldn&#8217;t conceive of people spending $4000 on a desk&#8211;when I casually suggested to a client she&#8217;d be better off with a desk that had at least two file drawers, I was thinking Target&#8217;s dorm desks, not an antique shop&#8217;s hand-carved masterpiece.</p>
<p>This not to say that everyone is buying Jimmy Choo and Christian Louboutin shoes, though I&#8217;m shocked that anyone does.  My point is that people spend what they think a product or service is worth TO THEM, and if it&#8217;s priced too low, based on their expectations, they assume the value is too low and search elsewhere.</p>
<p>The points you mention fit in with this, especially with the going rate, not only of other professional organizers in the area, but other service professionals.  It&#8217;s important that the rate we charge is commensurate with the value of the service we provide&#8211;we are not merely moving tangible items around a room, but (as NAPO says) transferring skills and changing the relationship people have with their tangible items, their tasks and their thoughts.</p>
<p>To do this, we have to recognize that our skills and abilities do not come easily to our clients&#8211;that&#8217;s why they need us in the first place, and why they are actually better at evaluating our value than we might be, ourselves (especially in the beginning).</p>
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